Отправлено: 07.04.08 12:37. Заголовок: Teaching English-2 or Who Wants to be an English Grammar Wiz (продолжение)

Ladies and Gentlemen

This topic is open for anybody who wants to practice the English grammar. It is well known
that people often overlook their errors in writing and a fresh eye of someone else may come in handy.
Please feel free to post your pieces of writing and I am sure you would get a friendly feedback.
People of any level of proficiency are encouraged to participate. Therefore it is important
to avoid showing superiority and be respectful to your peers.
Thank you for your time and welcome to the Club.


Дамы и Господа

Эта тема открыта для любого кто хочет практикавать английскую грамматику.
Хорошо известно что люди часто не замечают своих ошибок и свежий взгляд может быть полезен.
Пожалуйста предлагайте свои pieces of writing и я уверен вы получите полезные комментарии.
Мы приглашаем участвовать людей с любой степенью подготовки, поэтому важно
не показывать превосходства над другими и уважать участников.
Спасибо за внимание и добро пожаловать в клуб.

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 15:25. Заголовок: Amigo пишет: I know..

Amigo пишет:

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I know that getting the visa is not a problem there

Needs a revision.
Amigo пишет:

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You can get it in the Manas Airport without any problems, just for 35$.

Needs a revision.

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:07. Заголовок: Amigo пишет: What c..

Amigo пишет:

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What citizenship are you expecting to get? I guess Korean...

No,I came to Korea at the end of July.I live usually in Austria.My husband is austrian,he works here.Just for couple years and then we'll leave Korea for any other country.It's not a problem to get a visa..I know.But I really have nothing left there.All my friends are in Russia,my parents too.So....

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:15. Заголовок: XXL пишет: Just for..

XXL пишет:

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Just for couple years and then we'll leave Korea for any other country

Needs a revision

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 23:42. Заголовок: Amigo пишет: XXL пи..

Amigo пишет:

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XXL пишет: цитата: No,I came to Korea at the end of July. Did you mean: June?

No,at the end of July 2007...Did I write it wrong?!?I should check what am I writing before I send my messages...but I never do.

 Отправлено: 06.07.08 01:56. Заголовок: XXL пишет: I should..

XXL пишет:

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I should check what am I writing before I send my messages...but I never do.

Please keep it that way. Thanks to you we have an opportunity to see how not to write. Thank you for being with us.

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 15:39. Заголовок: XXL writes: My ..

XXL writes:

My "sloppy" sentence is absolutely common.

Sterner:

Well it may be absolutely common in Austria but not in English speaking countries.

The model answer:
You could say “I speak German fluently”, or “I speak fluent German”, or “I speak fluently in German”. Any of these will do, but your version (“I speak fluently German”) doesn’t sound right.

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 15:49. Заголовок: XXL writes: Is it..

XXL writes:

Is it possible to use until with will?

Sterener:

Well spotted.

Amigo writes:

I think it's not possible to use it...

XXL : 0.25

Amigo: 0.25

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 16:43. Заголовок: XXL writes: I bet t..

XXL writes:

I bet that you have never ever been sitting next to a native speaker of English.

Sterner writes:

Wow, it sounds so emotional. If you really want to bet I am quite happy to accept your challenge. Here is a deal, if I lose I would apologize and say that I was a rude crook.
If you lose you would apologize and say that you were a stupid cow. How’s that?

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:37. Заголовок: sterner1 пишет: Wel..

sterner1 пишет:

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Well it may be absolutely common in Austria

people speak german in Austria...not english.I speak english with my friends from the base.I live near there.So believe me I have enough possibilities to practise my English.And I prefer to be corrected by the native speaker,but not by you....

sterner1 пишет:

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XXL writes: I bet that you have never ever been sitting next to a native speaker of English. Sterner writes: Wow, it sounds so emotional. If you really want to bet I am quite happy to accept your challenge. Here is a deal, if I lose I would apologize and say that I was a rude crook. If you lose you would apologize and say that you were a stupid cow. How’s that?

Truth hurts,isn't it?

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:55. Заголовок: XXL пишет: Truth hu..

XXL пишет:

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Truth hurts,isn't it?

It is not clear if you want to bet or not. Come on, just say Yes or No.

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:07. Заголовок: XXL writes: I have ..

XXL writes:

I have learnt two more languages (except English) and got in touch with thousands of people.

Dutch writes:
I prefer to rewrite in the following way:
I have learnt two more languages (in addition to English) and got in touch with a thousand people.

Instead of "in addition to" it is possible to use "besides" without any prepositions.

Sterener writes:

Dutch sorted out the main problem regarding “except English”, but his next adjustment wasn’t necessary ( a thousand of people).

The model answer:

I have learnt two more languages (in addition to English) and MET with thousands of people.

Dutch: 0.25

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 20:34. Заголовок: sterner1 пишет: and..

sterner1 пишет:

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and MET with thousands of people.

Khm...
"Meet" is not not used with preposition, I guess.

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I lived on Bokonbaeva/Moskovskaya street

Your opinion means nothing for me


You can get it at Manas Airport without any problems, just for 35$.

And I prefer to be corrected by a native speaker, but not by you....

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Just for a couple of years and then we'll leave Korea for any other country.

but the USA is full with Indians or other nationalities.

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 00:06. Заголовок: FlyingHollander пише..

FlyingHollander пишет:

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and MET with thousands of people. Khm... "Meet" is not not used with preposition, I guess.

You are right, you can use “meet” with no preposition. However, in this sentence “with” is also OK. There is a subtle difference in meaning, but not much.

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 00:20. Заголовок: FlyingHollander пише..

FlyingHollander пишет:

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I lived on Bokonbaeva/Moskovskaya street

Correct

FlyingHollander пишет:

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Your opinion means nothing for me

Incorrect

FlyingHollander пишет:

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You can get it at Manas Airport without any problems, just for 35$.

Correct, except for $35

FlyingHollander пишет:

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Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Second part is correct

FlyingHollander пишет:

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Just for a couple of years and then we'll leave Korea for any other country.

Correct

FlyingHollander пишет:

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but the USA is full with Indians or other nationalities.

Correct except for "or"

Dutch: 2.5

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:26. Заголовок: Total marks to date:..

Total marks to date:
Nimfa-manka 5.5
Amigo 17.25
Comma` 2.5
XXL: 2.25
Dutch : 1.50

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:54. Заголовок: sterner1 I have alr..

sterner1
I have already heard about your trip to USA,but USA is full with Indians or other nationalities.You might have been working there as a waiter.Oh,now I know why the dishes like Pavlova,soup of the day (I think it's difficult to get a soup only from the whole day menu at least in Europe) and bla-bla-bla sound so familiar to you....and you think you are an expert...You can keep your apologizes for yourself and you will never get some from me.

 Отправлено: 04.07.08 18:50. Заголовок: Task one 1) Fill in ..

Task one
1) Fill in the gaps where required. Note that not all the gaps should be filled in.

I lived on _____ Bokonbaeva/Moskovskaya street

Your opinion means nothing _____ me


You can get it ____ _____ Manas Airport without any problems, just for 35$.

And I prefer to be corrected by _____ native speaker,but not by you....

_____ truth hurts,_____ it?

Just for____couple ____years and then we'll leave Korea for any other country.

but ____USA is full with Indians or other nationalities.



2) The phrases below are more or less OK, however can you rephrase them to make them sound more English?

But I really have nothing left there

but USA is full with Indians or other nationalities.

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 00:33. Заголовок: Amigo пишет: Or sho..

Amigo пишет:

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Or should I have used "a" instead? But I'm talking about the Kyrgyz visa.

I am pretty sure that it should be “a”. Let me know if you want me to consult with my expert.

Amigo пишет:

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but the USA is full of Indians and other nationalities.

Correct

Amigo:0.5

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 05:49. Заголовок: Amigo пишет: I just..

Amigo пишет:

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I just wanna know why it should be "a". Sometimes I'm not good in articles.

I believe that there is a logical explanation to your question. It is clear that you are talking about the Kirgiz visa. However when you arrive in Bishkek you obtain a Kirgiz visa. Next time you will obtain another Kirgiz visa and so on. So whenever you come to Bishkek you always obtain a visa. To make sure that this answer is correct I checked it with three natives. They are all positive about it.

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 00:36. Заголовок: Total marks to date:..

Total marks to date:
Nimfa-manka 5.5
Amigo 17.75
Comma` 2.5
XXL: 2.25
Dutch : 4.0

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 00:42. Заголовок: Task one Your opini..

Task one

Your opinion means nothing _____ me

_____ truth hurts, doesn’t it?

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 02:30. Заголовок: sterner2 пишет: You..

sterner2 пишет:

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Your opinion means nothing _____ me

... to me

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_____ truth hurts, doesn’t it?

A truth hurts...

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 02:49. Заголовок: FlyingHollander пише..

FlyingHollander пишет:

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to me

Correct

FlyingHollander пишет:

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A truth hurts...

Incorrect

Dutch: 0.5

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 02:58. Заголовок: sterner2 пишет: A t..

sterner2 пишет:

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A truth hurts... Incorrect

I'm surrending.

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 03:58. Заголовок: FlyingHollander пише..

FlyingHollander пишет:

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I'm surrending.

The model answer:

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 04:05. Заголовок: sterner2 пишет: The..

sterner2 пишет:

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The truth

Why "the"? Thruth is an indefinite uncountable noun. Besides, there is no any distinctness for "truth".

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 05:29. Заголовок: FlyingHollander пише..

FlyingHollander пишет:

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Why "the"? Thruth is an indefinite uncountable noun. Besides, there is no any distinctness for "truth".

I am sorry I can’t explain why “the” is required there. I am afraid we just need to remember it as it is. However I can assure you that this answer is correct as I confirmed it with three native speakers.

 Отправлено: 05.07.08 23:34. Заголовок: sterner2 пишет: Fly..

sterner2 пишет:

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FlyingHollander пишет: цитата: Why "the"? Thruth is an indefinite uncountable noun. Besides, there is no any distinctness for "truth".

I think so too...

sterner2 пишет:

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I am sorry I can’t explain why “the” is required there.

Do you know the song "Love hurts"? It's a very old song.But he doesn't sing "The Love hurts...."Nazareth is the name of the band...Sterner,you should correct their mistake too.....!!!

 Отправлено: 06.07.08 01:42. Заголовок: XXL пишет: цитата: ..

XXL пишет:

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цитата: FlyingHollander пишет: цитата: Why "the"? Thruth is an indefinite uncountable noun. Besides, there is no any distinctness for "truth". I think so too...

Do you want to bet? Actually I don’t expect that you accept my challenge, because there is a very slim chance for you to win. However just let me know if you do want to bet.

 Отправлено: 06.07.08 11:12. Заголовок: sterner2 пишет: Do ..

sterner2 пишет:

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Do you want to bet? Actually I don’t expect that you accept my challenge, because there is a very slim chance for you to win. However just let me know if you do want to bet.

I don't believe that you are that whiz that you try to be here.....
I'm not going to bet,I don't have to prove something to my myself or to anyone else here,you want to prove to everyone in this forum that you are that whiz that you act!I don't want to read more letters that come from your indian "native speakers"....
Take a hike,sweetheart.Piss off!

 Отправлено: 06.07.08 17:20. Заголовок: XXL пишет: I don..

XXL пишет:

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I don't believe that you are that whiz that you try to be here..... I'm not going to bet,I don't have to prove something to my myself or to anyone else here,you want to prove to everyone in this forum that you are that whiz that you act!I don't want to read more letters that come from your indian "native speakers".... Take a hike,sweetheart.Piss off!

What a good piece of writing. Almost error free. I have picked up only one minor mistake.
“indian” should be written “Indian”.
I feel proud of you, you are showing good progress.

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 02:04. Заголовок: sterner1 пишет: I f..

sterner1 пишет:

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I feel proud of you, you are showing good progress.

Do you really think I care?

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 02:18. Заголовок: sterner2 пишет: I a..

sterner2 пишет:

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I am sorry I can’t explain why “the” is required there. I am afraid we just need to remember it as it is. However I can assure you that this answer is correct as I confirmed it with three native speakers.

You can't explain it,because it's wrong!

Truth hurts. And it is correct!Not the truth...
Life is hard.Love is cruel... and etc. Have you ever heard something about the abstract expression?

sterner1 Don't believe your "native speakers"!Stop being so silly...they are not native speakers !

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 12:19. Заголовок: XXL пишет: because ..

XXL пишет:

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because it's wrong!

Do you want to bet? Actually I don’t expect that you accept my challenge, because there is a very slim chance for you to win. However just let me know if you do want to bet.

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 15:47. Заголовок: sterner1 пишет: Do ..

sterner1 пишет:

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Do you want to bet? Actually I don’t expect that you accept my challenge, because there is a very slim chance for you to win. However just let me know if you do want to bet.

It's all you really can...to copy and to bet.

"Truth hurts",but "I'll tell you the truth about yourself."So you can say the truth,but not in abstract expressions,that I used. And one more time:


F.... OFF!

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 15:56. Заголовок: sterner1 пишет: Do ..

sterner1 пишет:

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Do you want to bet? Actually I don’t expect that you accept my challenge, because there is a very slim chance for you to win. However just let me know if you do want to bet.

Are you asking for trouble?

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 16:11. Заголовок: XXL пишет: Are you ..

XXL пишет:

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Are you asking for trouble?

Do you want to bet? Come on , just say yes or no.

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 19:19. Заголовок: sterner1 пишет: Do ..

sterner1 пишет:

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Do you want to bet? Come on , just say yes or no.

Are you stupid?Can you read at all?
Take a hike.

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 19:34. Заголовок: XXL пишет: Are you ..

XXL пишет:

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Are you stupid?Can you read at all? Take a hike.

Not a very nice way to say no. By the way you don’t have to be impolite.

 Отправлено: 08.07.08 12:40. Заголовок: XXL пишет: Don'..

XXL пишет:

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Don't believe to your "native speakers"

There is a mistake in this sentence. Can you find it?